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- From: scm@mfltd.co.uk (Shaun C. Murray)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.misc
- Subject: Re: New Press Release!
- Date: 15 Mar 1996 16:29:00 GMT
- Organization: Micro Focus, Newbury UK
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- In article <4ic0gf$qsd@flood.xnet.com>, jcompton@flood.xnet.com says...
- >
- >Jeff Grimmett (jgrimm@bitnova.com) wrote:
- >: Say it, Jason. Tell me that you think that the peecee is the machine to
- >: beat. Then tell me why you've stuck around with your Amiga for so long.
- >: This should be interesting.
- >
- >In the computer industry? You're damn right the PC is the machine to
- >beat. That is the default purchasing choice of any potential computer
- >buyer. They must be convinced that a non-PC purchase is right for them.
- >They must have a good reason, and after you tell them that an Amiga is
- >several times slower than the low end PC, you may as well stop talking.
-
- It's the emphasis on speed that creates the problem for people selling Amigas.
- I don't know if it's some strange macho thing but my perception has always
- been effeciency not speed is important. If you can do the same job for less
- with less materials than why pay over the odds for something.
-
- The PC *is* the machine to beat but you have to convince the buyer that
- horsepower is not the most important factor. A clever salesperson can do this
- and I think this is the crux of the problem with Escom sales staff in the UK.
-
- >
- >: Perhaps this never occurred to you, but the Amiga hasn't played the
- >: peecee game for a VERY long time, it's NOT a peecee, it's designed
- >: differently. The PROBLEM is that no one seems to see this. It's a
- >: common lament of the Amiga owner that if it were only more apparent the
- >: actual ADVANTAGES of the machine, a lot more people would use it than
- >: currently do. CBM never managed to market it. No one, including
- >: (apparently) several Amiga owners, seems to know about the differences.
- >
- >It's too late for Commodore to market it, but unfortunately that was the
- >last chance to get the Amiga, as we know it, into homes and businesses by
- >the skillions. Besides, using off-the-shelf parts in development is a
- >perfect way to use the (largely unfortunate) market conditions to the
- >advantage of the Amiga.
-
- I agree totally with Jeff here. I don't want anything like a PC. The emphasis
- in that market is not about fun. There are far too many mainstream cop outs. I
- had beta copies of Windows 95 (I have to develop for the thing). Some of the
- things that were taken out were pretty cool but not very 'corporate'.
-
- Warning: CAR analogy approaching....
-
- AT are in the lightweight custom sportscar market at the moment rather than
- being Ford. The Amiga may be more of a classic rather than modern
- sportscar but a sportscar it is. Unfortunatley like many a custom sportscar
- market, they may have to buy an engine off of Ford for a revised model.
-
- If you can live with the custom-ness and non-mainstream then the Amiga's for
- you. Some people like to be different. *Some* is the operative word.
-
- >: Your "three generations" are nonexistant. The new Amiga prototype is a
- >: modification of AGA, nothing more. The _next_ generation is being worked
- >: on. It will not happen overnight.
- >
- >You've missed the point entirely! While the market has progressed 3 or 4
- >generations, we've had one. But processor and graphic technology has
- >progressed right along. Why restrict the current generation to 1992
- >standards?
-
- I think Jeff has it right. Why develop on the current generation when the next
- one will be more beneficial. To continue the car analogy, you get a brand new
- car developed from scratch every few years. In the mean time the existing
- model gets a new bumper, a redesigned grill etc.
-
- You either wait for the next big step or take the hit on a model that gets
- marked down rapidly as the new one is out.
-
- >
- >Yes, it would be a Herculean task to get that sort of functionality
- >nearly overnight. But I thought we all knew that. I thought that's what
- >the Amiga Tech employees and contract developers knew when they signed on
- >to work on it.
-
- In computer terms, 12 months *is* overnight for a brand new machine. Myself,
- I'm waiting for the new PPC model, my 030 2000 is ok for the meanwhile and I
- can always use one of the machines at work if I wanted. I'd rather spend the
- money in the meantime on a new mountain bike than jumping ship to the PC -
- much more fun!
-
- ps. I still fancy a BeBox though ;-)
-
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- Shaun C. Murray | e-mail: scm@mfltd.co.uk
- Micro Focus Ltd, Newbury, UK. | www: http://www.mfltd.co.uk/~scm/
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